01 September 2009

What I'm working on

"As I was thinking about this, suddenly a goat with a prominent horn between his eyes came from the west, crossing the whole earth without touching the ground. He came toward the two-horned ram I had seen standing beside the canal and charged at him in great rage. I saw him attack the ram furiously, striking the ram and shattering his two horns. The ram was powerless to stand against him; the goat knocked him to the ground and trampled on him, and none could rescue the ram from his power. The goat became very great, but at the height of his power his large horn was broken off, and in its place four prominent horns grew up toward the four winds of heaven." Daniel 8:5-8

The Ram here is the Persian-Median Empire. The Goat is Alexander the Great. Daniel writes this in the 6th century BC and these battles don't take place until late in the 4th century BC.

Right now I am back in school, taking Western Civilization I, American Literature I and Art History I. I put that quote there because my Western Civilization class has extra credit based on movies from the time period we are covering. I will be doing one of these on Alexander. I have been fascinated by him for a long time, but more so since studying the bible, and specifically the book of Daniel. Alexander is of tremendous biblical importance because he spread Greek culture and most importantly the Greek language throughout much of the known world. The New Testament was written almost primarily in Greek, and Greek is an excellent language to communicate a message. There are many different words in Greek for many different emotions that in English might be combined into one word. The classic example of this is the word: Love.

We love our spouse, our children, our friends, our country, our sports teams, cars and even TVs. In Greek there is Agape, Eros, Philia, Storge and Thelema. It is very clear if one says to another "s'agapo", that this is not referring to sexual love. But in English, context is necessary to derive the true meaning. The point though, is that Greek was an amazing language to write down the greatest story ever told, that of the Gospel.

So this is kind of what's been on my mind. In addition to watching the 3 and 1/2 hour long Oliver Stone movie on Alexander, (which I think focuses too much on a kind of love that it is uncertain if Alexander partook in) I've been watching History channel videos (via YouTube) on the battle of Gaugamela as well as videos on Philip and Alexander. Pretty cool stuff.

My Art History class has led me to think of a really cool approach to talking to atheists about God. I don't know if it will work, but let me throw it out here.

This sculpture, called the Venus of Willendorf, is very primitive. It is dated at about 30,000 BC. Even though it is primitive, anyone who looks at this sculpture would say that it was created. An intelligent being "designed" this sculpture. A rock was taken, and some sort of tools were applied to make this rock look like a woman.

Now if this poor quality (though not for its time) sculpture is evidence of its creation and design by a creator, then how is the universe and everything in it, including the zenith of all designs, the human body the result of millions of "beneficial accidents"? It is quite simply preposterous to think that humans could have developed by accident or luck. I'll conclude with this quote:

"“To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.”
- Charles Darwin

13 comments:

RecknHavic said...

Well, one things for certain, Jenny Craig coulda made a BUNDLE in 30,000 B.C.

Glad to hear about the class stuff, sounds interesting. Be careful not to get suckered into too many "religious" discussions there tho; the colleges are big into arguin the evolutionists version of the world just for arguments sake.

Good luck!

Nestor said...

Something tells me that women weren't that fat back then, and this was made to accentuate the child-bearing qualities. Notice the tiny arms. I've been throwing biblical stuff out there when I can, without forcing it. Quite frankly, it's come up more often, and more naturally than I'd normally expect it to.

RecknHavic said...

That's why you'll do well in college and as an author; I'd never had made the leap to "accentuatin child bearin qualities".

Glad to hear the subject comes up, fertile witnessin territory.

Linda said...

Lol @ Jenny Craig, Reck!

Glad to hear you're takin classes, Nestor. Sounds like interesting stuff.

Wasn't sure how to comment on this, as you know my present stance..but I found this quote that expesses what I've always thought. So as a starting point, I'll copy it...then ya'll can start rippin me a new one. ;)

... rarity by itself shouldn't necessarily be evidence of anything. When one is dealt a bridge hand of thirteen cards, the probability of being dealt that particular hand is less than one in 600 billion. Still, it would be absurd for someone to be dealt a hand, examine it carefully, calculate that the probability of getting it is less than one in 600 billion, and then conclude that he must not have been dealt that very hand because it is so very improbable. --John Allen Paulos, Innumeracy: Mathematical Illiteracy and its Consequences

Nestor said...

Linda,

I understand that just because the probablility of something is low, doesn't make it impossible. However, just the chances of the universe forming at all, meaning not expanding indefinitely and not collapsing on itself, goes to more than 100 zeros. Then you take the possibility of a bunch of chemicals randomly getting together to form a genetic code with at least 1000 different genes for life simpler than we've ever witnessed. The chances of that are probably in the 100 zeros range as well. Then this "life" would have to mutate billions of times to create humans. I know that if you add all of these factors, plus the 1000s of other factors necessary for life like, uranium, iron, an abundance of water, being the proper distance from the sun, etc, etc and there is a chance of maybe 1 in 1X10^1 and a billion zeros. Is it possible? I suppose. But could it really happen without a designer?

Linda said...

I think we're coming at this from different directions. Your starting point is human life and you're looking back to see what had to have happened to achieve it. I see that approach as backwards. I see human life as just a RESULT of the physics and physical properties of the planet that was here a long time before we were. Our life happened BECAUSE of the chemical reactions,iron, water, distance from the sun, etc.

I have no reason to think that there isn't life on other planets and that those planets' physical qualities are "perfect" for THAT life. (My point here is not to argue the position of life on other planets, but in order to make my point I have to use it as an example.) I see it as "this happened"...so here we are. Not, here we are, so those things couldn't possible have happened. Do you see what I mean?

What we consider "essential for life" is based on our limited knowledge of our own. Upon that I'm sure we can agree.

RecknHavic said...

Primordial soup...tasty, tasty primordial soup..

I'm gonna try an experiment. I'm gonna randomly type letters and see if I can come up w/ some words (tho at times it probably appears that I do just that).

Here goes:

dathiedsts diont trelaally ebxist

Hmmm...

Linda said...

Today I wish I believed in god.

Nestor said...

"For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me, and I will listen to you. You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart." (Jeremiah 29:11-13)

He's out there Linda. I also wish you belived.

RecknHavic said...

All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Nestor said...

Sorry Reck,

My blog moderates all comments on posts more than two weeks. This ensures I don't get spam on something from last year that I'm not looking at anymore, and if someone decides to post a comment on an older post, I'll know about it. Anyway, good quote.

RecknHavic said...

No prob. How's school comin along?

Stan Rosenthal said...

Nestor @ September 21, 2009 12:54 AM,

Dude, you should switch to a Wordpress blog. There's great widgets for that problem there.